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Jiggles
14th June 2007, 09:25
Will someone tell me what this Notam is about please.

Ref: H1867/07B06
FIR: EGXX
Code: WELW
Traffic: VFR IFR
Purpose: PIB entry Operationally significant for flights
Scope: Nav Warning
Lower limit (FL): 060
Upper limit (FL): 090
Centre and radius (nm): 5504N00500W390
Parent ICAO: EGPX
Start date/time: 14/06/2007 07:45 UTC
End date/time: 14/06/2007 18:00 UTC
Activity period: null
Lower height limit: 060
Upper height limit: 090

LEG 10 5213N 00013E 0914 60

LEG 11 5226N 00036E 0919 60

LEG 12 5231N 00109E 0926 60

LEG 13 5247N 00123E 0931 60

LEG 14 5245N 00000W 0946 60

LEG 15 5254N 00029W 0942 60

LEG 16 5333N 00034W 1004 60

LEG 17 5349N 00016W 1010 60

LEG 18 5405N 00017W 1014 60

LEG 19 5347N 00058W 1023 60

LEG 20 5400N 00051W 1028 60

LEG 21 5356N 00110W 1035 60

LEG 22 5401N 00146W 1041 60

LEG 23 5442N 00110W 1055 60

LEG 24 5445N 00116W 1057 60

LEG 25 5513N 00134W 1105 60

LEG 26 5534N 00201W 1113 60

Skyguy Al
14th June 2007, 09:39
Hi John,

They are military waypoints. See exercise details below:

Q)EGXX/QWELW/IV/BO/W/060/090/5504N00500W390
FROM 07/06/14 07:45 TO 07/06/14 18:00 H1867/07
E) AUS 07-06-0586/1960/AS3
OP GREENFINCH 2/07. open SKIES OVERFLIGHT FROM AND TO BRIZE NORTON
(5145N 00135W) VIA LEUCHARS (REFUELING AT LOSSIEMOUTH) WI THE LONDON
AND SCOTTISH FIR. AN AN30B ACFT, CALLSIGN open SKIES 33 (OSY 33),
WILL FLY THE FOLLOWING TWO ROUTES. END OF LEG(EOL)/WAYPOINT
POSITIONS, APPROXIMATE TIMINGS AND ALTITUDES ARE AS FOLLOWS.
ROUTE 1 ETD FROM BRIZE NORTON (EGVN) 0745HR.

bar shaker
14th June 2007, 09:49
John

It is one of many NOTAMs that appear that detail a military flight from Brize Norton, up the east coast. Its not a RA(T) and the aircraft will be operating between 6000ft and 9000ft, subject to weather... so likely to be at 1500ft.

The reason it is published is that the aircraft will not be following the quadrantial rule. On that basis, I should publish a NOTAM for every flight!!

There is much talk on other forums of the dross that now gets promulgated as VFR NOTAMs, from people flying kites, to cranes on building sites to changes to charts, to new call signs for Northumberland helimed, to Heathrow's new phone number... you name it. In amongst all this rubbish may be something you need to read. A VFR search should give only that... NOTAMs to affect a VFR flight, along the route specified.

Using Notamplot and/or http://fly.dsc.net/u/Plan should solve all your problems, especially if you apply the filters accurately.

Jiggles
14th June 2007, 10:00
Thankyou both very much. I noticed similar markers down the west coast but they were explained.

Jiggles
14th June 2007, 19:35
If AIS did the same as Notamplot then maybe a lot more people would use it. Notamplot is so easy and obvious and yet the official layout is designed for people with nothing better to do than read.