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Minica Belemet
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   Posted 19/12/2010 4:32 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you. Will decide next couple of days. But I am listening to any suggestions.
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Dave Smith
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   Posted 20/12/2010 12:03 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I may be wrong, but ANR and noise cancelling microphones always used to be completely separate functions and nothing to do with one another.

The ANR headphone function uses a mic in the earshell to detect noise bleeding in and creating an exact duplicate in opposite phase to add to and therefore cancel it from the required audio coming from intercom or radio receive. This is only capable of working on the lower end of the audio spectrum, so good passive insulation is still required (heavy cup with absorbent foam) for the higher end of the spectrum (where passive works best).

In the microphone, it's simply the mechanical construction of the mic, who's diaphragm is open on both sides, so ambient noise hits both sides equally and cancels. The mouth is very close to one side only, so affects that side more than the other and gives an output. So-called 'velocity' operated, rather than 'pressure'.

I used to make such mic modules, before they came easily available, by purchasing Maplins typical omni-directional electret jobbies and drilling a couple of holes in the rear face, next to the solder connections...

Dave
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Stuart Garner
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   Posted 20/12/2010 12:25 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I too would recommend Microavonics products (and I must add that I have no experience of Flycom for comparison). They are well made and reliable - however, if you should have a problem, Eddie Cartwright (the prioprietor) is very helpful and offers a no quibble guarantee. Added to that he is a microlight pilot! I suggest you talk to Eddie and discuss your requirements with him - I'm sure he will try to find a way of trying the product out before you buy.
Stuart
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Minica Belemet
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   Posted 20/12/2010 7:02 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What about these ones? Anybody knows anything? They look very sexy...but are they good?

http://shop.flybubble.co.uk/icaro-rollbar
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Eddie Cartwright
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   Posted 22/12/2010 1:21 AM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello all, Eddie here from MicroAvionics.

Andy has given quite a good review of the UL200 electronics within the Integral helmet. To confirm the ANR (active noise reduction) reduces low frequency noise within the ear defender compared to non ANR headsets. Non ANR headsets are what we call Passive headsets, some refer them as PNR headsets (passive noise reduction). Passive noise reduction is relying on the ear defender to limit the noise entering the ear, where as ANR has the advantage of using electronics to lower the noise within the eardefender even further. In the UL200 headset this is done by the way of a microphone inside the earcup. This microphone listens to any noise that is not speech and in technical terms plays the same noise through the speakers but in 180d out of phase. In simpler terms, the system plays positive noise at negative noise and thus reduces the unwanted noise from entering your ear..... I hope that's not too confusing.

As Andy mentioned, the UL200 also has the added feature of VOX. This mutes the microphone when you are not speaking. This has a huge advantage, I list some benefits below:
Unwanted noise to your ears is reduced.
Radio receptions can be heard even clearer, especially if they are very weak radio reception.
If you listen to music, then you only hear music, not music and unwanted amplified noise.

MicroAvionics are happy to offer a money back guarantee to people if this helps. Just speak to us if you need this guarantee.

Regards,
Eddie Cartwright
MicroAvionics UK Ltd :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Minica Belemet
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   Posted 28/12/2010 2:09 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
HI Eddie!

Got your message. Will think it over and get back to you later.
Thanks
Minica
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   Posted 3/1/2011 7:15 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Minica,
I have a UL200 helmet with vox, and a UL200 headset with vox. Once set up in flight it cuts the noise right down. I would recommend Microavionics.
I bought one of their wireless PTT's at the show, it works a treat. I have no experience of flycom stuff, but I think its good stuff too.

Eddie,
Just charging my headsets up, but not sure how long to keep them on charge for.
Dai
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Minica Belemet
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   Posted 3/1/2011 8:27 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi guys!

Thank you for all your input. I have put an order with Flycom as they gave me a goodish... deal. Not jumping up with joy yet, as I have to see if the £900 spent are worth it. Wife doesn't know yet. Expecting bad weather on family front, but hey, it was Christmas! We all deserve a present.

Minica
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John Moore (1595)
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   Posted 10/1/2011 10:16 AM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have used Flycom - their services are excellent and it sounds like you got a better deal than I was offered at the NEC so well done for that.

In fact I thought the offer to me was stingy enough for me to keep hold of my money in favour of using Lynx and Icom.

BJ


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Graham Jefferies (GeeJay)
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   Posted 12/1/2011 6:46 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
a few extra posts there John, or have you eaten something that's repeating on you?


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Mike Cowlishaw
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   Posted 25/2/2011 5:11 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Curious to hear what Minica thought about his Xmas pressie after trying it/them?
 
(Also, are helmets really necessary, or is the main benefit protection from the wind, etc.?)

Mike
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Bob Hood BMAA 3300
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   Posted 25/2/2011 5:29 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Mike,

Helmets aren't a legal requirement as far as I know for flexwing flight, but as you say they come in useful for protection from the wind, rain, cold, etc, and in the event of an accident they would help prevent injury.

Best regards,

Bob Hood


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Kev Armstrong
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   Posted 25/2/2011 5:36 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Just ordered Flycom single seater radio interface and headset, neat trick is the noise cancelling mike is run off the radio's battery instead of requiring a separate 12v supply.

Got a massive bonce and struggle to find helmets to fit; this means using universal Communica helmet and using separate headset. However when Paul Leigh kindly offered a spin last year, he insisted on trying his Flycom integrated helmet, and to my vast surprise it slid on perfectly, and for a change didn't leave a ruddy great pressure mark or headache after a fairly long flight.

Sorry about the gender mix up Minica, especially galling for a flexwing pilot..;-)

Cheers

Kev


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Minica Belemet
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   Posted 25/2/2011 7:35 PM (GMT +1)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Used very little mines, but I am very happy with them.
Will keep you all informed how it goes.
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