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    bryan plunkett wrote: Thanks Wally, yes it had crossed my mind that there would be a mod of some sort required.

    GPL does seem the only route available, i can not understand why we don't have a UK supplier though.
    CFS Aero in the UK can supply a starter set. This includes spacer, toothed gear plate, starter motor, solenoid switch, mounting plate and all nuts bolts and washers necessary to replace the pull start mechanism with electric start.

    Part nos are 995925 priced at 475 or 995925(NC) priced at 432. The latter being non certified. They currently have 2 of the non certified variety in stock and the certified version is available on request but I don't know the lead time.

    I converted my Rotax 503 to electric start last August using the exact same starter set, (995925), sourced from Skydrive and the cost from them was 465.

    BMAA technical office deemed the mod a major one on my aircraft - Aerochute Dual powered parachute - but might not be on yours.

    And no I am not a salesman for CFS Aero by the way.

    Hope the info is of some use.

    Glyn Pemberton

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    Just a thought Bryan, a 505 should not be a S** to start, I've flown with them for many years and any more than3 or 4 pulls is out of the ordinary , ofton 1 does the job from cold or hot anyway. Half cold can be a bit more of a pain though far from terrible, so I'd suggest that something isn't quite right and an electric starter may help conceal the problem but it will not cure it.

    The 1st thing may be starting technique, I don't know how experianced you are with 2 stroke starting technique but if you don't already know if you have on the enricher (wrongly ofton called the choke) the throttle should be shut. After a coiuple of pulls with the enricher engaged you will have built up an excess of fuel so take it off, after another pull if it doesn't start open the throttle halfway (after chocking of course). If that fails you have a different problem.

    Sorry if trying to teach you to suck eggs, but so many pilots now have never learned how to handle these brilliant little engines.

    You may find this link to Eccleston Aviation interesting

    http://ecclestonaviation.co.uk/troub...oubleshooting/

    By the way if you are convinced that all is well with your engine I have a starter and gear that I removed from a 503 that I could part with, please pm me if interested

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    Thanks Wally, yes it had crossed my mind that there would be a mod of some sort required.

    GPL does seem the only route available, i can not understand why we don't have a UK supplier though.

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  • Wally Hayward
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    I would suggest you consider the percieved "problems" with the GPL starter, and the M4 starter has been obsolete for many years, if you go down that route.
    You may not be aware that the Rotax 277,377, 477 and 503 starter assemblies are all the same, The 532, 582, 618 starter assemblies are basically the same as for the 503 apart from the thickness of the "flywheel crank" spacer and are often cheaper on the "market".

    A bit of jiggery pokery to fit a motor cycle starter would be fine if you have an SSDR machine, but if a Permit Machine the MOD costs would undoubtedly be more than the cost of any starter. unless someone has "done it before"

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    Overpriced starter motors

    After nearly dislocating my back from trying to start my bugger of a 503 engine, I decided an electric starter was the answer.

    I was surprised to find, firstly there doesn't seem to be a UK supplier and secondly the price of the GPL or M4 starters are about 500! from the USA.

    My question, isn't a motorbike starter motor just as good or even better than what's available?

    Even if it takes a little bit of jiggery pokery the parts are redly available and the savings could be immense. :idea:
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